121A vs 2203H sub with BX63A
I stumbled on a NOS C8R121A kit and was amazed at the size of the mass ring!
Here is a picture comparing the 2235H (35gm) with the 121a (95gm).....
SO I was wondering if I would be better off using the kit without the ring in a 2202H basket I have here ( and then creating a 124A / 2203H )
OR
Using the mass ring and making a ferrite version of the 121A.
Any thoughts? I have plenty of power and a BX63A to process it with.
Although it was designed for a special alignment with the 2235 or 2245 BUT the 2203 is the same beast but a smaller diameter...
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Re: 121A vs 2203H sub with BX63A
For what it's worth, I have extensive experience with the 121 and the 124/2203.
"SO I was wondering if I would be better off using the kit without the ring in a 2202H basket I have here ( and then creating a 124A / 2203H )"
The only differences between the 121 and 124/2203 are the mass rings (95 grams versus 35 grams) and the stiffer suspension of the 121. You can't build a true 124/2203 from a 121 kit. G.T. and I recently revisited this and came to that conclusion. He suggested cutting the 121 spiders in the kits to loosen them but I'm not real wild about that.
"Using the mass ring and making a ferrite version of the 121A."
The 121 and 124/2203 came in alnico and ferrite.
"Although it was designed for a special alignment with the 2235 or 2245 BUT the 2203 is the same beast but a smaller diameter... "
The 124/2203 has significantly lower Qts and Fs compared with the 2235 or 2245. It's a real killer. It yields a response that might not work with the BX63. I'll have to get back with you on that.
I've built a significant number of 124/2203-based subs and the best combo I have found is 2.8 cubic feet tuned to 30 Hz. The 121 works best in a 2.0 cubic foot sealed box and I can't recommend it these days when used in singles. It is too inefficient and too displacement limited. You'll probably end up listening to the mass ring smack the pole piece or simply hanging the coil. I have a pair of 121A subs and they work well enough but I have to use at least two of them.
I recently finished a pair of 124H subs for use with a Tannoy dual-concentric 5.1 system. The client couldn't believe how the Tannoy/JBL system laid waste to his "precious" Infinity Reference system. He was going to use the Tannoy/JBL system strictly for HT and the Infinity system for music but after a few days he dumped the Infinity system.
Re: Re: 121A vs 2203H sub with BX63A
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Originally posted by Giskard
I recently finished a pair of 124H subs for use with a Tannoy dual-concentric 5.1 system. The client couldn't believe how the Tannoy/JBL system laid waste to his "precious" Infinity Reference system. He was going to use the Tannoy/JBL system strictly for HT and the Infinity system for music but after a few days he dumped the Infinity system.
Which Tannoys? Saturn, D-series, TD-series, Eyris, Sensys, Kingdom series, studio monitor of some sort?
I've been listening to a pair of the new Sensys DC2s (7" DC with a 7" woofer and a supertweeter, floor standing tower), and those things just amaze me more and more. Hooked up a Audio Research SP8 and D70 to them, then an Eastern Electric MiniMax tube pre (linestage with one 12AU7 per channel) running through my recently-restored Magnavox AMP185 (6V6 output) tube amp... and was just stunned with how good the dynamics (especially in the bottom end) and soundstaging were. Even on the Magnavox, which is only 15w/ch! It's great what a speaker with even a LITTLE extra efficiency than normal, can do for dynamics!
Regards,
Gordon.