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    PICKING CAPACITORS

    http://www.reliablecapacitors.com/pickcap.htm
    (Many figures at the bottom.)


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    Yeah, I like their PPT Theta's and RT's as bypass capacitors.

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    I haven’t played around with capacitors in years now not since I had CB radio where I could solder a different (microfarad value) to get the "Roger Bleep" on my "Cobra 148 GLT-DX" to have a slightly longer delay that LOL cursed the fuse to short out LOL oh those where the days of experimenting.

    With crossovers I haven’t yet mucked around and I sure as hell don’t what to blow anything up unless its already been tried out.

    If you what to have some lazy fun with the capacitors take a pair of pliers place a capacitor in-between the pliers take a lighter and hold the flame underneath the capacitor. The bigger the capacitor the louder it will be! Just remember to ware a mask these smell bad!

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    This is a good fascinating read I’m thinking of hooking up the other JBL for an experiment if I can find some cable that is long enough I’m very short on cable at the moment.

    http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/Serious-Sub.html

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    vibrations inside the capacitors seem te have impact on the overal sound.

    usualy the carbon based capacitors sound the best.
    but you can upgrade your capacitor
    like this

    http://www.dhtrob.com/keesolaf/elco.htm

    after putting it in a wooden case use laquer on a natural base (schellac, C37) to get it airtight.

    also dipping them in beewax gives improvements
    finally i have a pair of 604 8g's....there not easy to find in the netherlands

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    Quote Originally Posted by greyhound View Post
    vibrations inside the capacitors seem te have impact on the overal sound.

    usualy the carbon based capacitors sound the best.
    but you can upgrade your capacitor
    like this

    http://www.dhtrob.com/keesolaf/elco.htm

    after putting it in a wooden case use laquer on a natural base (schellac, C37) to get it airtight.

    also dipping them in beewax gives improvements
    Are you saying by de-soldering the type of specific capacitors that the manufacture specified for certain products and by replacing it with a different grade will make a noticeable improvement in performance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBL 4645 View Post
    Are you saying by de-soldering the type of specific capacitors that the manufacture specified for certain products and by replacing it with a different grade will make a noticeable improvement in performance?
    Ah c'mon Ash ... this is BASIC stuff.
    Manufacturers pick caps (brands/quality) based on PRICE POINT ...
    in older speakers caps have AGED and may no longer be in spec.

    To get better sound, replace old caps with better speced parts -
    and as G err , 4313B says, replace old crossovers with CC version for improved sound ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBL 4645 View Post
    Are you saying by de-soldering the type of specific capacitors that the manufacture specified for certain products and by replacing it with a different grade will make a noticeable improvement in performance?

    well im a carbon freak
    capacitors on a oil carbon base improved my sound considerably.

    the vintage equipment (in my opinion) has more character than modern stuff.
    a friend of mine replaced all resistors that were carbon based with metal films. we compared and now hes soldering everything back.
    but technicaly it measured better. but the old amp lost its soul.
    the 1801 poweramp by bose.

    in speakers and also cd players ive got improvements.
    i dont understand what you mean by grade
    the specifics should be the same but the brands are different.

    this is also the case with coils. remove the ferriet/iron core and make them bigger. so teh centre is air.
    finally i have a pair of 604 8g's....there not easy to find in the netherlands

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    "If you what to have some lazy fun with the capacitors"

    Try this... Take a 120 uF /50 WV, wet-slug tantalum electrolytic and plug it backwards into a test bench (U.S. Navy repair shop) 28 VDC receptacle. Then after ten seconds or so, get nervious about it all and swat it out of the receptacle with a foxtail brush.
    If it's as much fun as my stunt turned out to be, it will violently explode, ala' a freshly made M-80, about six feet from the receptacle, and smell EXTREMELY toxic.
    Didn't seem quite so funny at the moment, but it did (and I mean DID) get the full attenton of everone in the shop.
    We afterwards tried (via remote conrol power-on, safer (?) to replicate those results, but to no avail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Electron View Post
    "If you what to have some lazy fun with the capacitors"

    Try this... Take a 120 uF /50 WV, wet-slug tantalum electrolytic and plug it backwards into a test bench (U.S. Navy repair shop) 28 VDC receptacle. Then after ten seconds or so, get nervious about it all and swat it out of the receptacle with a foxtail brush.
    If it's as much fun as my stunt turned out to be, it will violently explode, ala' a freshly made M-80, about six feet from the receptacle, and smell EXTREMELY toxic.
    Didn't seem quite so funny at the moment, but it did (and I mean DID) get the full attenton of everone in the shop.
    We afterwards tried (via remote conrol power-on, safer (?) to replicate those results, but to no avail!
    finally i have a pair of 604 8g's....there not easy to find in the netherlands

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    AES-Paper:
    Menno van der Veen "Non-linear distortions in capacitors"

    http://www.mennovanderveen.nl/nl/downloa/download_4.pdf
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    Understand Capacitor Soakage to Optimize Analog Systems

    National Semiconductor (Bob Pease):
    http://www.national.com/rap/Applicat...570,28,00.html




    Further reading by Bob Pease:
    http://electronicdesign.com/Articles...ArticleID=6096
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    Sencore

    Understanding Dielectric Absorbtion by Sencore
    http://www.sencore.com/uploads/files...Absorption.pdf

    easy to follow, some figures for illustrating - refering to the graphs of National Semiconductor
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