846U Valencia X-Overs...do they look okay?

[Storm]

I was rotating my woofers and while I was about it, I took a picture of each crossover.

I was wondering if I could get some technical advice and can someone let me know if they look alright or should I "update" them.

I have been reeling back and forth this past couple weeks about if I should change the crossovers.

Should I? Do they look like they are in need of an update, or should I leave them alone?

Thank you for all of your help.

I appreciate the technical advice of all you guys - because I have no clue about these things.



Pictures below.

-Storm.

[X_X]

I was wondering if I could get some technical advice and can someone let me know if they look alright or should I "update" them.

I have been reeling back and forth this past couple weeks about if I should change the crossovers.

Should I? Do they look like they are in need of an update, or should I leave them alone?

-Storm.

They look right to me. A very simple crossover.

Does anybody else feel this way:
He needs to unscrew and rotate one of those inductors 90 degrees (??).

Other than that, ride out your high! If ever there comes a time when you feel like the speakers just ain't doing it anymore- THEN do a caps upgrade (among other things).

If and when that time comes, I highly suggest buying a handfull of fairly inexpensive caps from various brands. It's loads more fun swapping them out and noting the changes/flavors they make vs sinking a lot of money in a single brand of cap and hating it.

Nathan

[spwal]

i didnt realize how simple the xover in there is.

it will take you 5 min with a soldering iron to samp out those caps. because you only have 2 to swap it wont break the bank to go with some nicer caps.

I think you really need to see what your speakers can do with a nice amp to be honest. you are short changing yourself if you dont use something nice.

[louped garouv]

problem with that is that depending on the cap he choses, it may be better...

but it also may be detrimental.....

and price isn't necessarily the key to a "good cap" for his purposes...

different caps can flavor the sound differently, right?

Rolling high end caps can get expensive too...... I sugest if he wants to go that route, that he find a local tech that specialzes in ancient audio gear (and their original "voicing"), and have him do the work -- if he wants it done....



and I agree on getting a better amp, if the one Storm is currently using is not up to par...

[SEAWOLF97]

and I agree on getting a better amp, if the one Storm is currently using is not up to par...

After years of using decent receivers, I recently upgraded to amp/preamp ....yes there is a difference, although it can be subtle. In my case it meant cleaner low end response (thats where the power is needed, .... LF )

[jim campbell]

personally i prefer an amp pre amp set up.i used to go thru an old hk 560 pre out into a dynaco 410.when i found some cash i bought an audio research sp 6a and the difference was mind blowing

[KJ Hall]

"All your bass (base) are belong to us"

Seawolf,

Yet another quote/signature that got my attention. I have seen something like this on another web site, LightReading. Are you also a networking geek? Very strange. Perhaps this was an Internet favorite?

[hjames]

Its a reference to computer game that was very badly translated into English ... see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_you...e_belong_to_us

"All your bass (base) are belong to us"

Seawolf,

Yet another quote/signature that got my attention. I have seen something like this on another web site, LightReading. Are you also a networking geek? Very strange. Perhaps this was an Internet favorite?

[SEAWOLF97]

"All your bass (base) are belong to us"

Seawolf,

Yet another quote/signature that got my attention. I have seen something like this on another web site, LightReading. Are you also a networking geek? Very strange. Perhaps this was an Internet favorite?

sorry for the delayed reply...I was on an audio shopping safari..can not divulge results or prices as I wud be accused of lying.

>>Are you also a networking geek?

I retired after time at Intel and a backbone provider 4 years ago...

of course I modded for bass.

the OFFICIAL video is here...

http://allyourbase.planettribes.game...eo1_view.shtml

[Nightbrace]

After years of using decent receivers, I recently upgraded to amp/preamp ....yes there is a difference, although it can be subtle. In my case it meant cleaner low end response (thats where the power is needed, .... LF )

A integrated amp or receiver with a well built power supply and large caps with a dual mono design (separate components for each channel) has always sounded just as good to me.. But I agree, for the most part, that separates are better as the power supplies have to be kept separate as they're in separate boxes . You can find an integrated amp or even receiver that will work just as good, but they are a bit harder to find and normally they are only the higher end more expensive models ..

The good thing about having a GREAT pre-amp is that you KNOW what you'll get and that you can swap in and out different amps to listen for differences and find the "right" amp for your application (speakers/room acoustics). Once you got the RIGHT pre-amp you've won 90% of the battle. It took me over 30 tries till I found one that was acoustically transparent and identical to running my CD player directly into an amplifier. Unfortunately many pre-amps, including Hi-End gear like Mark Levinson and Conrad Johnson, all tend to add some colorations (whether intended or not) and a unique sonic character. The amp "amplifies" what the pre-amp is sending to it and enhances these colorations, which is why the pre-amp is much more integral to the resultant sound.. Some may like these colorations, but thats up for you to decide. Its just a matter of finding a pre that works best for you. Once you have decided on a pre, you can audition amps to "dial-in" your speakers to your room..


Storm< As some members here have mentioned upgrading to "newer" caps may alter the resultant sound taking away some of the signature sound that you've been used to. You can rest assured that they will probably wind up sounding "better", but they may or may not be better to you with replacements. Whenever I do anything to the crossovers I keep the stock ones 100% in tact and build new networks. That way you can always swap them back in if you're not satisfied.

You keep coming back to the same thing over and over, you never seem to be happy with what you have, and then when people try to make suggestions you "claim" that you are happy with them. Its ultimately up to you to decide what to do, but based on ALL your posts in regards to these speakers and how much you presently enjoy them, you should leave them alone. Its no bigge for us to look at your networks, and for the most part we're all happy to see another set of networks. If something was wrong you may have HAD to do some upgrading. It doesn't seem to be the case. I wouldn't have even pulled the woofers if I were you unless your curious to see what's under there. Although you did run into a gooey mess along the way... And no, I don't know what that is, I'm assumig just a sealant/preservative of sorts and you need not remove it as long as its not affecting the sound. I'm sure it was put there for a reason.

The old saying goes, "if it aint broke, don't fix it" rings true here. As I said and a couple others as well, the networks look ok, and as long as they are operating properly and you don't notice any buzzing or popping, you should be okay. If you are worried about damaging your speakers or want something that's more reliable to have "peace of mind" have someone with expertise with Altec to build you new networks based on the factory schematics with components that will most closely match what you currently have.

I honestly think that its virtually impossible to get them to sound exactly the same as the newer filters are more advanced and made of slightly different materials, but you can get them really, really close, and if anything improve what you already have.. If you are wanting to "alter" the networks you will in fact "alter" the resultant sound of the speakers themselves, and if you don't know what you are doing or what you are trying to achieve, you can do more harm than good... I am speaking from experience here. I've screwed up many times thinking I could make them sound better by altering the networks..

I'll say it again. You like these speakers EXACTLY the way they sound. Why change them?? They are meant to be enjoyed and I hope you continue to enjoy them exactly as they are.. Should you wish to look into upgrading the networks, you have come to the right place and we can guide you along.. Good luck, and be sure to rotate your woofers every 5,000 songs from now on . Your definitely not rotating them often enough see all that sludge that's building up around the woofers .. I saw your speakers pulling to the right a little, you might need an alignment too...