Building the 4345/4344

[Ian Mackenzie]

Hey Rob,

Nice driver suite,

I have the 3145 networks in my luggage for you to try out, but don't rush the box.

Ian

[boputnam]

Originally posted by Ian Mackenzie
I have the 3145 networks in my luggage for you

Yea, and he slept on 'em the entire time here!! Damned Aussie...

[Ian Mackenzie]

Well I did offer you the opportunity but as you said only under parental supervision.

Ian

[boputnam]

Originally posted by Ian Mackenzie
..only under parental supervision.

Yea, too bad we couldn't find one...

[Ian Mackenzie]

Had a close up and personal look at John's 4343's last night, NICE.

The quality of the cabinets was as Bo's 4345s. Much nicer than the 4435's IMHO. Just the veneer and polish appears better.

We also sucked the juice on the 4435/4343 comparsions, still thinking about that one.

Its a case of preferences and depends on the type of genre/program material.

More later.

Ian

[boputnam]

Originally posted by Ian Mackenzie
Well I did offer you the opportunity...

Plus, you'd made 'em for Robh, fer crissake - no way I'm 'bout to steal from a Forumite!

[Ian Mackenzie]

So Suz must have been out.

Still you are have been crowned the Harp artisan and King of knob Farming.


Ian

[Ian Mackenzie]

Ah,

Come on, the idea was for all you Lansing Formites to try some sweet candy.

I might even go fully biamp having taste tested Passlabs red wine with the lovely Karen.

And having heard John's 4343 play so nicely, I think the amps up stream also make big influence.

Those Mack's really are as good as it gets, very engaging and not at all clinical.

Yeah know I am going off topic....Blah Blah.

Talk to you guys later, we're going for a drive.

Ian

[Robh3606]

Finally have useable cabinets to load drivers into. Forgot how much goes into them. Set them up as 5Cu. Ft. subtracting the midrange enclosure and ports. Figure the glass will cover bracing and the horn. Tunned them to 30 Hz with dual 3" ports.

Rob

[Robh3606]

Another about to glue and nail the back.

[Robh3606]

Final with the back panels on the the top braces installed. Just have to decide how to finish the MDF??

Rob

[Robh3606]

One loaded up waiting for a first listen!


Rob

[boputnam]

Originally posted by Robh3606
One loaded up waiting for a first listen!

Very, VERY nice work, Rob! Ensure you don't rush into a tastetest without proper EQ. Four-ways are notoriously difficult to tame, and are hugely benefitted by proper EQ. You won't know what you've got 'till you get 'em set-up proper...

I just re-Q'd the 4345's tonight, and my-oh-my, somebody's knees must've been knocking the EQ in the pantry... Subtle - VERY subtle - movement to the 1/3 octave has audible influences. Back-on goes the security screen...

[boputnam]

Almost forgot - when the damned Aussie get's there he can walk-you through the Transfer Function mode of SmaartLIVE - at least how he saw it employed both at the home, and at the gig.

The benefit is, even during and using a live mix, Transfer Function enables ensuring flat EQ. Another-words, you don't need to bore the audience with Pink Noise, nor are you stifled during the gig to being unable to know what is going-on acoustically. ANY reference material can be used, and if properly time-delayed (for mic distance from speakers) can provide an astonishingly powerful real-time tool to analyze room acoustics.

oldmics harped on this way-back when. Most folks use SmaartLIVE only in RTA mode (oh-so lame). Even when Little Wheels Band are last-up, I get the laptop going, and using the Transfer mode, re-Q the room on the fly, to great result. Our audience is noticing the difference...

Sorry - enough outa me...

[Robh3606]

Thanks Bo

With Smart Live can you configure your windows mixer Mic Input as a channel?? I have put off loading the trial software so I can have the most productive time with it. I have a phantom power box for my measurement mic but no mic preamp unless I use an input to an old casette deck as my preamp and just monitor that as a second channel. Can you do it with just the sound card???

Rob