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    I sold all my JBL stuff and use Altec.

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    My brother-in-law sold his big Cerwin Vegas and got a Bose Wave radio.

    He likes it a lot ...
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    7: TIVO, Oppo BDP103D, B&K, 2pr UREI 809A, TF600, JBL B460

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjames View Post
    My brother-in-law sold his big Cerwin Vegas and got a Bose Wave radio.
    Quote Originally Posted by hjames View Post

    He likes it a lot ...


    Heather, that is wicked I mean come on, you are kidding with that Bose, right?


    JBL control series control 5 and control 1 have been good to me over the year’s, especially the JBL control 5 which I have bee using for 17 year’s, there very affordable when looking under Google Product in you’re region of the world. And at least you’ll be a proud owner of some JBL products, there's no need to break the bank, but there are some JBL that I wouldn’t mind owning some day that cost a few hundred pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBL 4645 View Post
    JBL control 5 and control 1 pounds.
    Please stay on topic.
    the thread is about NON-JBL, Non-Lansing brands
    2ch: WiiM Pro; Topping E30 II DAC; Oppo, Acurus RL-11, Acurus A200, JBL Dynamics Project - Offline: L212-TwinStack, VonSchweikert VR-4
    7: TIVO, Oppo BDP103D, B&K, 2pr UREI 809A, TF600, JBL B460

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    The DIY route

    In this forum 18Sound speakers had been mentioned some time ago,
    for example:

    Midrange driver 6 ND 410 (6")
    Neodymium magnet
    fs = 120 Hz
    Sd = 143 cm2
    SPL = 97,9 dB/ W/ m
    QTS = 0,24
    Xlin = +/- 2 mm
    Xmax = +/- 4 mm
    voice coil diameter 45 mm
    125,00 EUR
    http://www.lautsprechershop.de/pdf/1...sis/6nd410.pdf
    (my comment:
    smooth frequency response, nice speaker for a tractrix horn)

    bass driver 15 MB 650 (15")
    ferrit magnet
    fs = 40 Hz
    Sd = 850 cm2
    SPL = 98,9 dB /W /m
    QTS = 0,26
    Mms = 70 g
    Xlin = +/- 4 mm
    Xmax = +/- 10 mm
    voice coil diameter 75 mm
    199,00 EUR
    http://www.lautsprechershop.de/pdf/1...is/15mb650.pdf
    (my comment:
    awesome in a bass horn, high upper frequency limit due to the low mass in case the folding will support this)

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    Meyer HD-1's Mighty impressive speaker....(and amp).

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    Tannoy 15" Concentrics

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    There are times when I can't use horn-loaded speakers like JBLs or Altecs. Quad ESLs of most any vintage are nice substitutes - for a while.

    Cheers,

    David

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    Without a dought ,,TANNOY WESTMINSTER.

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    Non -JBL ?

    How about Cello Amati or that famous HQD (Hartley-Quad-Decca). Don't forget the Klipschorn. There is a reason why they are still in production. And of course early Arnold Nudell Projects from Infinity or Genesis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakanta View Post
    How about Cello Amati...
    If Zilch ever saw them he'd drop to the floor quivering. He get's freaked out about the comb filtering of a pair of L100s... just think what a pair of LSTs are doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakanta View Post
    And of course early Arnold Nudell Projects from Infinity or Genesis.
    Those examples in your photo above... are they currently in your collection or was that some time ago?

    I find the line array a bit perplexing. I want to like them, but I have never heard a pair that I did. I have heard the original IRS system, very large Genesis systems and quite a few lesser examples and never heard one that worked in the room I was in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Widget View Post
    Those examples in your photo above... are they currently in your collection or was that some time ago?

    I find the line array a bit perplexing. I want to like them, but I have never heard a pair that I did. I have heard the original IRS system, very large Genesis systems and quite a few lesser examples and never heard one that worked in the room I was in.


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    The outer ones on the photo are Infinity QLS-1 and I got they two weeks ago.
    I'm still quivering down on the floor. I chase these for 20 years and found they in a cellar of a restaurant near by Stuttgart.
    A good Line array (very rare!) in a proper setup and enviroment have a realistic soundstage that will blow your socks off. I hear once the Genesis 1 in a poorly setup in Frankfurt. Really a disapointment. Tons of Loudspeakers and nothing that touches your soul.
    But then I remember a Infinity RS-1b, a Infinity Beta and of course a QLS-1 !
    It's the magic moment that you don't matter about the equipment and only hear the music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakanta View Post
    The outer ones on the photo are Infinity QLS-1 and I got they two weeks ago.
    I'm still quivering down on the floor. I chase these for 20 years...


    That's great!

    I have always figured there must be something to them (line arrays) as they do have an ardent following. Congratulations on your find.


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    Widget,

    Have you heard the newer Sonus Faber systems?

    They may be loved or hated by some but they seem to get the best out of a room and the music.

    The better brands seem to spend more effort on getting a system to work in a room rather than fighting it.

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    Hi Ian,



    My friend who bought a pair of Project Widgets last Spring had previously owned the Stradivarius Homage... he was never able to get them to work in his room. I never heard them while they were there though. He did have great success with a pair of Magico Minis and Taurus subs in there just prior to installing my speakers.

    Another friend has a pair of them in an awkward room and while they sound acceptable, they are not spectacular sounding. (For ~$40K they need to be spectacular)I am supposed to bring CLIO and help him play around with the room in an attempt to make them sound better.

    I have heard several of the lesser Sonus Fabers over the years and have really liked many of them.


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