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    Bose 4401 + 1801

    hello to all members,
    i am from France
    I am new on this forum and I read with great interest the various topics .. we might lose!
    For a long time I wanted to realize a childhood dream:
    have a hifi system 70's old with JBL speakers, I like these speakers, I had long ago 4311B of which was beautiful but unfortunately I could not keep them ..
    My first purchase was a Studer A810 that I got in Germany, a beautiful tape
    Second , i acquired a few days ago a couple BOSE 4401 + 1801 that I should receive within 1 week.
    I do not know if it's a good set but the blow of heart for me !
    pictures in a few days
    I want to have your opinion about the best JBL speakers that I can set this amp + pre amp?
    I have also the possibility to use 901 but i dont now this speakers
    If anyone has information on patterns, materials, connections, manuals on this BOSE couple....
    then he should choose a CD player, a turntable, a tuner, all of which should be 70/80 years
    Thank you
    michel

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    thank you, i have find my informations _michel

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    I want to have your opinion about the best JBL speakers that I can set this amp + pre amp
    I would like the JBL L300 SUMMIT , there are very beautiful on ebay U.S.($3650) but the transport price is too high for France(about $2500)
    if you can give me the difference between JBL L300 SUMMIT and JBL L300
    thank you for your answers

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    Hi MM54, how can I send you a PM ?

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    if anyone knows the difference between JBL L300 SUMMIT and JBL L300

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    thank you, i have find 2 JBL L300 SUMMIT
    end_michel

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    Quote Originally Posted by mm54 View Post
    hello to all members,
    i am from France
    I am new on this forum and I read with great interest the various topics .. we might lose!
    For a long time I wanted to realize a childhood dream:
    have a hifi system 70's old with JBL speakers, I like these speakers, I had long ago 4311B of which was beautiful but unfortunately I could not keep them ..

    My first purchase was a Studer A810 that I got in Germany, a beautiful tape

    Second , i acquired a few days ago a couple BOSE 4401 + 1801 that I should receive within 1 week.
    I do not know if it's a good set but the blow of heart for me !
    pictures in a few days
    I want to have your opinion about the best JBL speakers that I can set this amp + pre amp?
    I have also the possibility to use 901 but i dont now this speakers
    If anyone has information on patterns, materials, connections, manuals on this BOSE couple....
    then he should choose a CD player, a turntable, a tuner, all of which should be 70/80 years
    Thank you
    michel
    Halo Michel,

    I have a BOSE pre amp and power amp, the same as you bought.
    I have had allways a pair of BOSE spaekers. But they are gone.
    I am looking to buy my old JBL 4343B speakers back. I sold them years ago to a small studio. But the owner is now selling his stuff.
    The BOSE is good material and the JBL's will sound great on the Bose 1801.
    I also have a turntable Technics 1201, Nakamichi cassette deck,
    Revox B77 recorder.

    Send me some pictures,
    Ronnie Dagevos e-mail [email protected]

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    Hi Ronnie Dagevos thank 's for reply,
    i have received my BOSE1801+4401 and the cosmetic condition is mint !
    actualy i cant test it because i have no speakers no CD and no tunrtable.
    In few days i must go to pickup my L300 SUMMIT...
    I must be patient to buy a very good CD ,i thought of STUDER D730 and turntable EMT948 but I will wait ... if you have a Id for other products 70/80 years
    pictures in a few days

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    i have received my JBL L300 SUMMIT 1976 and tested with my BOSE1801+4401,
    when I connect my turntable Luxman PD277 (coil MC) on the preamp BOSE4401 on IN switch to 1 or 2 for hight or low position
    there is a steady background noise every second
    if I connect to my Accuphase amp on MC phono1 it works properly
    I think there is a problem on the preamp BOSE4401?

    is it possible he does not accept MC entry ?
    it seems yes on the manual but it is a copy and I can not properly read
    the part that corresponds to the connection of a phono1 or 2

    if impossible can i use outside adaptator...
    since MC to IN adaptator and OUT adaptator to IN PREAMP PHONO1

    Hofmannhp say the output of a Mooving Coil phono cartridge doesn't fir to the 4401.
    therefore you need a Preamp with an MC input.
    I suppose it is Preamp Phono like Clearaudio

    the user manual says that the 4401 is compatible with the magnet coils MM
    I would rather a problem with the phono stage of the 4401 which is more serious, I is not a means of control should be another person who uses the 4401 and which has a turntable with an MC cell if that work ??

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    i think Hofmannhp have the good answer,
    the 4401 phono sensitivity is 2mV (for MM cell) in phono1 and 2
    and my cartridge is :
    CELL MOBILE REEL (MC) - DENON DL 103 PRO Voltage Output (1kHz, 50 mm / sec): 0.35 mV (1KHz 50mm/sec) Frequency response in Hertz: 20 - 75 000 Impedance Output (20Hz-20kHz) in Ohms: 38 Channel separation: More than 26 dB difference in sensitivity of channels: <1 dB Pointe reading: Elliptical diamond Flexibility dynamic (100 Hz): 6 x 10-6 cm / dyne Force Support: 2 g + / - 0.2 g Weight: 8.5 g

    my question :
    if I shall make a phono preamp type Clearaudio which has come between the phono and entry platinum phono 1 or 2 does it work or do I use the auxiliary input of the preamp in this case I'm bothering because I use the auxiliary input for my CD?

    what kind of cartrige does i use to have better sound ?

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    Hi

    Have a search for a MC step up transformer. Denon AU 320 is ideal but there are others available.

    You have two problems with the input to the Bose pre , the voltage does not match and therefore the bose must create extra gain to compensate. Because of this the background noise and hum increases also.
    You may also have a ground loop problem related to the turntable.

    The Denon carts are not noisy.

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