Heard the LSR32?

[mikebake]

Opinions? With a -3db at 54, are these things used with subs in studios?

[Ron K]

I heard the LSR32 and 28 in Performance Audios Studio in SLC. They were using the LSR12 subwoofer with them. Very very good sound. Hearing these caused me to choose the kevlar mid and tweeter of the LSR32 for my system I built thats described on another thread.
Regards Ron K

[spkrman57]

I found them to be very analytical.

They are very critical concerning source audio gear, room placement and the total room treatment as a whole.

I used Audio Note CD player w/tube buffered output - Blue Circle tubed preamp - Almorro push-pull/parallel 6550 (125 wpc).

Interconnects are Zu silver wire(unshielded).

The LSR 32's were toed in to 60 degrees as per the manual.

I found them to be very revealing and not lacking of bass when pushed with sufficient wattage. Downfall to this is I don't like listening to my audio system at very high spls for very long.

If not for the last item, they would be in my system forever.

By the way, my Soundcraftsman PM860 amp(MOSfet) 300 wpc @ 4 ohms met the minimum standards as did the Almorro tube amp.

These speakers would be best with 400 to 800 wpc amp of high quality.

Just my 2 cents added to the LSR 32 mystique!

Ron

[mikebake]

Why do they have to be listened to at high SPL?

[spkrman57]

Mike,

They don't open up and deliver the goods at the lower wattage levels.

Once they have some wattage behind them they do a lot of things very well!

Also, I have them 14" off the ground to place the mid/tweeter at my ear level when seated in the listening position.

I also have to comment that they take EQ on the bottom end very well and there is plenty of bottom end in those 252G's, even in the 1.8' cabinet.

What was your observations???

Regards, Ron

Why do they have to be listened to at high SPL?

[mikebake]

Mike,

They don't open up and deliver the goods at the lower wattage levels.

What was your observations???

Regards, Ron

The same.
Turn them up to make them sound more balanced, and then the forward midrange becomes even more forward.
It is said that the only real fix would be to make them a 4 way.

[spkrman57]

The same.
Turn them up to make them sound more balanced, and then the forward midrange becomes even more forward.
It is said that the only real fix would be to make them a 4 way.

My amp/preamp/cd player are all vacum tube and have a softer presentation.

I would cringe if I had to listen to these with SS gear as tubed sound is much softer! There still is a slight forward midrange sound to it, but it is tolerable.

You should come down and hear them on my system to compare against what you heard with SS gear!

Ron

[spkrman57]

It is said that the only real fix would be to make them a 4 way.

Maybe a dedicated processor would work well.

Ron

[speakerdave]

It is a very accurate speaker--some would call it analytical--but I was never bothered by a "forward midrange" in the LSR32, maybe because I was coming off of Jubals and before that 604-8G's. But when listening to them analytically I did learn to look to my electronics and source material. Some CD's that sounded fine to me before turned out to have obvious problems. I put my classic tubed preamp in the closet to wait for a rebuild. The LSR's and my Philips SACD1000 made wonderful music together, but when that died and I replaced it with a Denon 5900 the LSR's were too analytical again.

There's also the question of what your room is like. The LSR's have only 1dB selectability in the woofer/midrange-tweeter balance, unlike home speakers, which usually have the level controls to compensate for the sound characteristics of the room--the LSR's being intended for use in a recording studio where the room is prepared to be part of the system. My room has deep-pile carpet, cottage cheese ceiling and lots of big soft furniture, not to mention the long-haired cat and large, upholstered audiophile.

David

[Mr. Widget]

My room has deep-pile carpet... and large, upholstered audiophile.

Widget

[spkrman57]

I have foam and other such pieces on the walls(no SAF to contend with) and I sit approx 6' from the speakers in a triangle configuration as the manual suggests.

I run the LSR32's with 0 db att on the HF as the tubed grear does a great job of smoothing things out.

Like I said earlier, if they sounded as good at lower wattage levels(normal listening levels that is), I would not hesitate to keep them.

These speakers would be great for a rock and roll music lover who likes high spls during playback!

Ron

[Zilch]

Hang on, now, these get subs with RMC doo-dah to complete the system, no?

At lower listening levels, Fletcher-Munson, Robinson-Datson, et. al. work against the bass response:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_loudness_curve

[Ian Mackenzie]

Zilch,

I have heard them and he's right.

Most monitoring is done and very high levels in case you were'nt aware.

[Zilch]

I have heard them and he's right.

Right about what? That they need EQ or the recommended sub for low-level listening?

Tell me a reason ANY speakers would have to be cranked to sound good, other than loudness contouring.

Note: There's action at the high end, as well....

[spkrman57]

Zilch,

I have found them to do exactly just that!

They would be right at home in the right recording studio!

And I have found out they are not as bass shy as the specs indicate! The 252G reminds me in part of the venerable LE14 series driver in that they are very much pitch perfect in the bass note reproductions. Just not as much output and as low as the LE14 drivers.

Just not made for home Hi-Fi use is all!

Ron