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    L200 components on ebay

    LE15B serial number 14294 and 14295
    LE85 serial number 17935 and 18028
    H91 horns serial number 25437 and 25613
    L91 lenses serial number 31672 and 31674 (mis-stated in auction)
    LX16 crossovers serial number 14204 and 14209 (with hand scratched "A" suffix)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting

    from auction:
    LE15B WOOFERS MATCHED PAIR
    FULLY TESTED
    PERFECT WORKING AND COSMETIC CONDITION
    Consecutive serial #'s 14294 & 14295
    shipping to U.S. only
    Hello and thank you for your interest. These Woofers are in perfect condition. They function beautifully. They were removed from a pair of L200 STUDIO MASTER SPEAKERS. They are complete with mounting harware. They tested identically on my meter. Cone motion is very linear. No rubbing voice coils. No issues period. Cone, spider, dustcap, and surrounds in perfect condition. Baskets look great with no rust or oxidation. Input terminals in perfect condition. Gaskets look and feel great. Please see my other auctions for matching horns, tweeters, crossovers, and lenses.


    http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-LE85-DRIVE-U...QQcmdZViewItem

    from auction:
    LE85 DRIVE UNITS
    Fully Tested
    Beautiful Condition
    serial #'s 17935 & 18028
    Hello and thank you for your interest. These drive units are in absolute perfect condition. They play beautifully and tested identical on my meter. They were removed from a pair of JBL L200 speakers that were purchased by my uncle. They have never been serviced or modified. They have original 1 1/4" edge wound aluminum ribbon. I have the matching woofers, lenses, horns, and crossovers on auction as well so please check them out.


    http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-H91-HORNS-WI...QQcmdZViewItem

    from auction:
    H91 HORNS
    Beautiful Condition
    serial #'s 25613 & 25437
    Hello and thank you for your interest. These horns are in absolute perfect condition. They were removed from a pair of JBL L200 speakers that were purchased by my uncle. They have never been serviced or modified. They are complete with all mounting hardware. I have the matching woofers, lenses, tweeters, and crossovers on auction as well so please check them out.


    http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-L91-HORN-LEN...QQcmdZViewItem

    from auction:
    L91 HORN LENSES
    Beautiful Condition
    serial #'s 25613 & 25473
    Hello and thank you for your interest. These horn lenses are in absolute perfect condition. They were removed from a pair of JBL L200 speakers that were purchased by my uncle. They have never been serviced or modified. They are complete. I have the matching woofers, horns, tweeters, and crossovers on auction as well so please check them out.


    http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-LX16-Crossov...QQcmdZViewItem

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    LX16 CROSSOVER UNITS PAIR
    FULLY TESTED
    PERFECT WORKING AND COSMETIC CONDITION
    serial #'s 14209 & 14204
    shipping to U.S. only
    Hello and thank you for your interest. These units are in perfect condition. They function beautifully. They were removed from a pair of L200 STUDIO MASTER SPEAKERS. They are complete with mounting hardware. Please see my other auctions for Vintage JBL gear.
    glen

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    I just won a D130 from eBay with the serial 503169. Most likely May of 1950?

    Mike Cornett
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    MODEL NO. - D130
    IMPEDANCE - 16 ohms
    SERIAL NO. - #503169

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    My current hypothesis for date-code serial number interpretation

    Quote Originally Posted by meestro
    I just won a D130 from eBay with the serial 503169. Most likely May of 1950?
    That would be my best guess Mike, thanks for adding your info here.

    Here is my current hypothesis for interpretation of date-code serial numbers on the "cut corners" labels of JBL components (not cabinets):

    First type, date only:

    last two digits of year with month in the format yym or yymm
    JAMES B.LANSING SOUND INC., "name only" labels:
    499 = September 1949 (D-175 & N-1000)
    5002 = February 1950 (D-130B)

    "no name" label:
    5010 = October 1950 (D-130)
    (The 5010 transitional label has no name and no address, but the layout of the "Model No.", "Impedance", "Serial No." type is the same as the earlier "name only" labels with a space between the "NO." and the following dash "-" that was eliminated when the address was added.)

    "JAMES B.LANSING SOUND INC.", "LOS ANGELES, CALIF., MADE IN U.S.A." name and address labels:
    5101 = January 1951 (D-175)
    Second type, date and number:
    last digit of year with month and suffix number in the format ymm## or ymm###, the suffix numbers increase irregulary over time, taking large jumps forward at different times on different components, but sometimes remaining unchanged for years.*

    (N or No. were occasionally prefixed to serial numbers)
    10613 = June 1951, suffix number 13 (D-130-E)
    10615 = June 1951, suffix number 15 (D-130)
    10822 = August 1951, suffix number 22 (D-175)
    10840 = August 1951, suffix number 40 (N-1200)
    N30474 = April 1953, suffix number 74 (175)
    205132 = May 1952, suffix number 132 (D-130B
    212147 = December 1952, suffix number 147 (D-130)
    309169 = September 1953 suffix number 169 (D-131)
    311147 = November 1953, suffix number 147 (N-1200)
    404153 = April 1954, suffix number 153 (1217-1290 horn)
    405169 = May 1954, suffix number 169 (130-A)
    407169 = July 1954, suffix number 169 (D 130)
    510511 = October 1955 suffix number 511 (D-130)**
    512170 = December 1955, suffix number 170 (N1200)
    608713 = August 1956, suffix number 713 (D 130)
    Third type, date code with unique, consecutive suffix number:



    *the 150-4 is exceptional regarding the suffix numbers, increasing at a rate that would seem to be too accelerated for manufacturing batches or design changes and which I believe represents a transitional numbering scheme that is the first instance where each driver received a unique suffix number tacked on to the date code:
    311-342 = November 1953, suffix number 342 (150-4)
    311-347 = November 1953, suffix number 347 (150-4)
    411-711 = November 1954, suffix number 711 (150-4, 16 ohm unit should have been labelled "C")
    502825 = February 1955, suffix number 825 (150-4C)


    These 150-4 date-code serial numbers were the first to be hyphenated, probably to distinguish the different meaning of their suffix number. The only other hyphenated serial number I've found is on some 1217-1290s but there seems to be no significance to this since the "153" suffix is the same as other 1217-1290s.
    The 375 driver introduced at about the same time as the 150-4 seems to have had consecutive serial numbers from the start. Maybe the date code scheme was maintained on the 150-4 because of the cast parts it shared with other cone drivers??

    **510511 = could also be interpreted as May 1951 suffix number 11 (D-130) : But a later D130 labeled with serial number 608713 leads me to believe that at some point in 1955 D130s began to also be given unique serial numbers as the date code suffix like the 150-4s

    And some anomalies:
    32147 = February 1953 (N 1200):I believe this is just a typo, and was meant to be 302147

    The only D123 with cut corners label I have seen has serial number 506. I think this may be a plain serial number like 375s from the same time. Like the 375 the D123 was a new and unique model that did not share parts with older models.
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    C50 olympus with S7R system on ebay

    Seller furnished info from warranty envelope:
    C50 cabinet model D50S7RWX
    LE15A serial number 7899
    LE85 serial number 5365
    LX5 serial number 10455
    HL91 serial number not supplied
    PR15 serial number not supplied

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...DME:B:AAQ:US:1

    from auction:

    100% AUTHENTIC JBL OLYMPUS C50 SPEAKER - ONE ONLY

    THIS IS IN BEAUTIFUL CONDITION WOOD IS PERFECT NO SCRATCHES (WOOD IS ACTAULLY DARKER THAN PICTURED).
    THIS IS LOCATED IN SAN DIEGO I WILL SHIP IN THE USA ONLY THIS IS TO HEAVY TO MAIL OVERSEAS.
    I WILL CHARGE ACTUAL SHIPPING ONLY NO HANDLING FEE. I WILL PROBABLY USE FEDEX GROUND AS THIS IS THE MOST REASONABLE AND REALIABLE.

    LE15A woofer (NEW FOAM), LX 5 Crossover & LE 85 driver with HL 91 Horn.



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    My recent purchase

    The JBL L-200's are

    Serial numbers 12256 And 12260



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    Nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERBEE
    The JBL L-200's are

    Serial numbers 12256 And 12260
    A great addition to your collection!
    Thanks for the serial numbers.
    If you ever open them up please add the serial numbers of the components.
    (Presuming these didn't have the brown envelopes stapled on the back with that info written in)

    They look to be in fine condition too,
    nice score!
    glen

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    Quote Originally Posted by glen
    A great addition to your collection!
    Thanks for the serial numbers.
    If you ever open them up please add the serial numbers of the components.
    (Presuming these didn't have the brown envelopes stapled on the back with that info written in)

    They look to be in fine condition too,
    nice score!
    These are for a friend of mine. I wish I could keep everything.

    Any idea how early/late in production these were?

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    L 200 age?

    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERBEE
    These are for a friend of mine. I wish I could keep everything.

    Any idea how early/late in production these were?
    Hi Kurtis,

    thanks for the numbers.....like Glen wrote....when we know the driver numbers, we may find out the age.

    HP
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERBEE
    The JBL L-200's are

    Serial numbers 12256 And 12260
    Hi Superbee,

    Not much help here. Closest cabinet serial numbers I have are 16292A and 16301A on L200s that the owner believed were purchased in 1973.
    glen

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    curious D-1002 cabinet on ebay

    This cabinet with components is interesting since I thought the D1002 cabinet was discontinued around 1951 or 1952, replaced in the line-up by the C35 cabinet. But this cabinet contains drivers with the cast iron magnet pots from the mid 1950s

    D-1002 cabinet, no serial number
    130 A serial number 404169 (April 1954)
    175 serial number N-40674 (June 1954)
    1217-1290 serial number 403153 (March 1954)
    N-1200 serial number 5003 on older "name only" cut corners label (March 1950)

    in auction:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-130A-175-N-1...QQcmdZViewItem

    from auction description:
    This was bought from a man who had known James Lansing personally. It might have been that this was a limited run of this system and only a few were made and he got one. Or something of that nature, But it is not confirmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glen
    Seller furnished info from warranty envelope:
    C50 cabinet model D50S7RWX
    LE15A serial number 7899
    LE85 serial number 5365
    LX5 serial number 10455
    HL91 serial number not supplied
    PR15 serial number not supplied

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...DME:B:AAQ:US:1

    from auction:

    100% AUTHENTIC JBL OLYMPUS C50 SPEAKER - ONE ONLY

    THIS IS IN BEAUTIFUL CONDITION WOOD IS PERFECT NO SCRATCHES (WOOD IS ACTAULLY DARKER THAN PICTURED).
    THIS IS LOCATED IN SAN DIEGO I WILL SHIP IN THE USA ONLY THIS IS TO HEAVY TO MAIL OVERSEAS.
    I WILL CHARGE ACTUAL SHIPPING ONLY NO HANDLING FEE. I WILL PROBABLY USE FEDEX GROUND AS THIS IS THE MOST REASONABLE AND REALIABLE.

    LE15A woofer (NEW FOAM), LX 5 Crossover & LE 85 driver with HL 91 Horn.



    I'm the buyer of this speaker, the condition was exactly as stated. I have a very close match and plan to convert it to an S8R.
    -tony

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    Congratulations Tony!

    Quote Originally Posted by tony winogrocki
    I'm the buyer of this speaker, the condition was exactly as stated. I have a very close match and plan to convert it to an S8R.
    -tony
    Congratulations Tony! Sounds like quite a prize to be in such nice condition.
    As you do the conversion to S8R, it would be great if you could post the serial numbers of the horn, lens and passive radiator.

    I hope it will bring you many years of enjoyment!
    Glen
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    C60 Sovereigns on ebay (with own website)

    Claimed 1969 original purchase, seller has assembled a thorough website documenting these speakers


    Here is all the serial number information:
    Speaker cabinet serial number 11078
    LE15A - 9633
    PR15 - 10245
    H93 - 10888
    375 - 6668
    L91 - 13589
    N7000 - 6667
    075 - 51677
    LX5 - 12315

    Speaker cabinet serial number 11083
    LE15A - 9564
    PR15 - 10247
    H93 - 10844
    375 - 6649
    L91 - 13660
    N7000 - 6658
    075 - 51705
    LX5 - 12299

    listed in auction:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-Sovereign-C6...QQcmdZViewItem

    from the auction:
    The original owner purchased these in 1969, and he gave me the original sales receipt.
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    Well done

    Hi Glen,

    thanks for your input.

    Yesterday I had contact with Greg, who is a member of our nice forum.... .
    He gave me all numbers for the registry.

    HP

    PS: Thanks again Greg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hofmannhp
    Hi Glen,

    thanks for your input.

    Yesterday I had contact with Greg, who is a member of our nice forum.... .
    He gave me all numbers for the registry.

    HP

    PS: Thanks again Greg
    No problem HP, glad to be a part of your efforts.

    Owning the C60's for this short time has been very enjoyable. I almost feel like a curator!

    Greg

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