that's where it's headed unless I/you/we do something about it... is what I got out of it.
-grumpy
that's where it's headed unless I/you/we do something about it... is what I got out of it.
-grumpy
Thanks Grumpy. I believe at one point the situation was compared to the robber barons in the early part of the last century. The point was also brought up that middleclass wages were getting the tar kicked out of them. As has been said, we really should be able to afford the current middleclass gear from JBL without too much trouble. It seems that such is not the case.
perhaps i would be more inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt if you had not been in hot water with the moderators for this kind of sniping before. i guess it is hard to see the support in posts like,"you really,truly arent worth my time,and you reinforce that fact every time you create posts like this."
If you look at it as a style of humor, it is quite a bit more interesting and enjoyable. AFAIK, Giskard doesn't get any particular joy out of arguing...
That is merely his opinion - there is no guarantee or implication it is shared by others.
It's really easiest to not try and "school" anyone out here, Jim - there is no winning; there is no losing here. These exchanges just get more and more muddy.
Best to get back to building / refurbishing speakers...
bo
"Indeed, not!!"
thom i have no trouble with them becoming profitable.the point i make is this that there are those who seem to believe that we owe them some kind of homage because they built some classic products in the past.but they have abandoned those types of systems and concentrated on mass market stuff that is generally what the forum members reject in the persuit of a classic,vintage sound.then with the profits design and build classic systems that will be for only the very wealthy and often foreign markets.i bought my first set of l26's,the components for my custom l300's,and my l220's the same way most of us did back in the day,by the sweat of my brow and making sacrifices in other areas.but now i think that is not possible for most and it is the policy of the corporate owners and not the reduced buying power of the greenback that i blame.despite the fact that they have shown some generosity in resources i still am not convinced that harmon/jbl as it exists today is owed much in the way of kudos for the triumphs of the past.
Or my personal favorite version of the saying - "Arguing with xxxxxxxx is like wrestling in the mud with a pig, sooner or later you realize the pig likes it."
Evidently my humor is best served face to face.No problem. Sorry for any confusion.
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