JBL 240Ti value

[Titanium Dome]

They are very nice to look at, 'tis true. They really sound pretty good, just not 250Ti good.

I had an open house here last summer and played my "beater" pair in the garage for the guests, and they were pretty impressed. Of course, many of them are sat/sub owners, so any full-range speaker will be enlightening.

There's still another pair virtually NIB in my garage, too, that I should set up. They are gorgeous, really, and I doubt anyone will ever pay me what I think they're worth. I might as well use them... but, where?

[Regis]

They are very nice to look at, 'tis true. They really sound pretty good, just not 250Ti good.

I had an open house here last summer and played my "beater" pair in the garage for the guests, and they were pretty impressed. Of course, many of them are sat/sub owners, so any full-range speaker will be enlightening.

There's still another pair virtually NIB in my garage, too, that I should set up. They are gorgeous, really, and I doubt anyone will ever pay me what I think they're worth. I might as well use them... but, where?

I remember them well. They didn't sound bad and then you turned on the XPL-160's and the little XPL's blew them away! Better definition, punchier, more midrange output, it was no contest for me (IMHO). If I had to choose between the two, I'd know which one I'd be looking for. Ditto on the 250Ti comments as well.

[jblnut]

I'm not quite sure why the 240Ti doesn't get the love and respect of the 250Ti. I bought a pair for $275 about 5 years back that needed refoaming. I sold them to a friend (at cost) to get him into the JBL family. He's a single guy with lots of disposable income, he's a musician, and he eats, sleeps and breathes music. The fact that he still has them (and LOVES them) speaks volumes. I visit his place frequently (and vice versa) and frankly, they sound a lot more like the 250Ti than this thread would lead you to believe. They only lack a little quickness/impact in the snare drum area as they don't have the 108h 8" lower mid driver.

They're a f'ing steal at anything under $750 imho and you'd frankly be very hard pressed to equal them new for less than $2k, maybe more. And yes the XPL160 might have been more of a "wow" speaker for demos and parties (I know, I had the 140) but for something to live with long term, it's very hard to beat the larger Ti's.

jblnut

[Don C]

Remember that the 044ti tweeter is going to have less output over time as the foam rubber behind the dome rots away. There are no more new diaphragm kits available for these tweeters, so it's going to be rare to hear these speakers sounding as good as they should. I love the sound of these speakers when they're working well, but I'd invest elsewhere.

[jblnut]

I'm curious how to assess/quanitfy this reduction in output over time. Mine certainly do not seem to have lost anything in the upper registers. Is is possible for this "foam rot" to cause no harm, or perhaps an insignifigant amount ? If this foam was used for dampening, is it also possible that it might actually damp less and therefore cause some spikes/peaks in response instead?

I'm certainly not ready to run from the Ti's without a fight at least. How bad is this really and how likely is it to affect every single 044Ti over time? And how much time at that ?

There's pages and pages of tweeters in the PE catalog, as well as some other JBL units that would fit with some work. I reckon if/when the time comes I'll bite the bullet and swap something else in there rather than scrap 2 250Ti's.

jblnut

[SEAWOLF97]

Remember that the 044ti tweeter is going to have less output over time as the foam rubber behind the dome rots away. .

why shud we remember that ? just a supposition, not a known fact

I'm curious how to assess/quanitfy this reduction in output over time. Mine certainly do not seem to have lost anything in the upper registers. Is is possible for this "foam rot" to cause no harm, or perhaps an insignifigant amount ? If this foam was used for dampening, is it also possible that it might actually damp less and therefore cause some spikes/peaks in response instead?

jblnut

we kinda hashed that out ...

HERE ==>> http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...ns-Help-needed

and IF you are really worried, the foam isnt that hard to replace

[jblnut]

I'm not worried and mine ain't broke...(yet anyway)

It certainly wouldn't deter me from buying a nice set of 240TI's *if* I could hear them first and they sounded good. But I can see how others might see the end of the line with no more new parts available. It's something we're all going to have to get used to in the legacy JBL world. We've been spared a fate that many other speakers of a similar vintage have suffered long ago - no more factory parts.

I've got a new 044TI in the box (thanks Giskard) and a pair of 120's standing by as donors. My "end of the line" is quite a ways out on the horizon. I hope my kids and grandkids will be rocking the house with 250's long into the future!

:-)

jblnut